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Poll Question: The National Adult Minimum Wage is £4.50 per hour. Do you think its:

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Denise
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Carers Pay Rates
« Thread Started on Oct 6, 2003, 10:31am »

I believe if you are looking for experienced qualified staff you will have to pay above the minimum wage rate. Careing for a vulnerable individual requires commitment and responsibility. Can we genuinely expect to get that on £5.05 per hour. What do you think?

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« Reply #1 on Nov 27, 2003, 4:04pm »

Denise
I agree with you. How can we expect to recruit and retain quality staff for very demanding jobs at the minimum wage level or thereabouts?

It is a sad reflection on society when we expect people to care for our nearest and dearest for £4-50/hr, or less, when they can earn over £7/hr stacking shelves in a supermarket, where the only responsibility is to get the labels pointing the same way!

Coming from a business background, I am acutely aware of the pressures on small business (and medium/large for that matter). However, bearing in mind that over 15% of registered nurses are due to retire in the next 10 years (I don't know the unregistered numbers), this is not the way to solve a staffing crisis on a long-term basis. If we do not recruit keen individuals and then provide them with a decent living and work environment, then we are on a hiding to nothing.

Here endeth the rant!! >:(

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« Reply #2 on Nov 27, 2003, 4:15pm »

I totaly agree with you Paul. I managed a branch of home care staff for 2 years. They were all paid the minimum wage but the job they did was priceless. I admit in Ormskirk, Lancs I had a large volume of staff to choose from and picked the best of the crop. I concentrated on staff retention through training, building team spirit, motivational feed back etc and managed a good retention despite the wage. If I could I would have paid them more.

In some of the nursing homes I've been to, you realy do get what you pay for and unfortunately its the service users who pay the price.

In private community care involving unsupervised carers working in a team under a case manager looking after a vulnerable brain injured individual you realy do need to be very careful. I tend to go for highly qualified, (NVQ3) with a great deal of experience and impeccable references. They cost more £7.00+ but they are worth every penny in regard to returns on standards in patient care.

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Carers Pay Rates increase from 1/10/04
« Reply #3 on Sept 23, 2004, 5:00am »

Adult minimum wage is now £4.85 as from 1st October 2004. Further info available on http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/nmw/index.htm

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« Reply #4 on Mar 28, 2005, 10:42am »

Carers wages have always been low as compared to other professions and jobs which produce wealth.
Invalid Care allowance, the 'wage' the government gives in the way of benefit to carers to provide them with some income, is minimal towards the rediculous, compared to what these dedicated carers save the government every year in terms of nursing home fees.
Social Services, Direct Payment scheme now pay the 'employer' (service user) £7.50 per hour to pay their carers but this also includes National Insurance contributions and other employer responsibilities.
It is long overdue for these people to be paid a little more of what they are worth and of what they save the Nation and government. They may not produce wealth for the country but they save millions.
Maybe then we would not have such a National shortage of this vital and dedicated service. At present people can wait 1/2 months for a service from Social Services as there is just not enough capacity to go round.

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Re: Carers Pay Rates
« Reply #5 on Nov 29, 2005, 11:58am »

National minimum wage increased as from 1st October 2005 to £5.05 per hour for adults and £4.25 for youths aged 18-21 years.

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